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Topic: Cabs new or old?
Posted By: retro passion
Subject: Cabs new or old?
Date Posted: 08 Oct 2018 at 9:04am
Hi all bit torn here as my name suggests I love all things retro suppose it's growing up in the 80's nostalgia etc... I got an opportunity as near to myself I have a guy selling a neo geo 6 slot cracking condition few things need doing el lights.

On the other hand someone selling a clone neo geo 29 brand new condition both will be used for neo so question is it the branded older woody or metal plastic clone?

So what I'm asking you guys which you think the one to go for?



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Posted By: phillv85
Date Posted: 08 Oct 2018 at 9:08am
If it's an LS Sound 25-29 that's for sale, you need to factor in durability. If you have kids or other family members who will be rough with then there's a chance it's going to break. The control panel on those things is the most flimsy of any cab I've ever come across. If it's just for you however, then I'd prefer a sitdown, but it's personal preference.


Posted By: jonhughes
Date Posted: 08 Oct 2018 at 9:12am
It's hard to say (your details are very vague) - I don't know how much you paid for one versus the other. If you're paying £2000 for the original and £200 for the repro and they're basically doing the same job, you have to ask yourself how much do I want to spend?

On the other hand if the cost is the same, know that your original will have greater appeal, be authentic and hold it's value. With that in mind though comes reliability and condition. Will it look good or is it a wreck?

The new one may be customised to your liking, although it may only appeal to you and it more than likely be more reliable but less authentic. Will it have an LCD in it for example?

I'd always go for authentic if it was on the table - but I'm also prepared to accept the short comings that go with it and undertake my own repairs when necessary.


Posted By: retro passion
Date Posted: 08 Oct 2018 at 9:56am
Thanks for the reply Phil and Jon it's mainly for me the kids have a little tft thing keeps them off my stuff ?? both have authentic screens there is a collectability value with the neo geo over the neo clone but like u say build quality ain't always top notch but one is sit down the other ain't here's 2 pics I took off Google what I'm looking at


Posted By: retro passion
Date Posted: 08 Oct 2018 at 10:01am


Posted By: retro passion
Date Posted: 08 Oct 2018 at 10:02am
Exactly the same cabs and roughly same condition


Posted By: tin
Date Posted: 08 Oct 2018 at 10:26am
Both.




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Posted By: phillv85
Date Posted: 08 Oct 2018 at 10:29am
If you're not worried about the build quality, then I'd just go for the one that you prefer playing at. Personally I'm a sit down fan (I have 4 candy cabs and 1 woody), I find I'm a little too tall to stand at most woody cabs. Candy cabs are also easier to shift around unless you have narrow doors or stairways.


Posted By: bjt42
Date Posted: 08 Oct 2018 at 10:44am
The original all day for me. Maximum nostalgia value


Posted By: cosine
Date Posted: 08 Oct 2018 at 10:48am
I have one of those NeoGeo, and a few candy cabs, and I like both. Like Phil said, candies are great if your doors are wide enough, though personally I would hang around for a Japanese machine, the Chinese clones aren't the best, build-quality wise.
You'll get the NeoGeo through just about any door, but having owned one for a few years now, I can categorically say it's an awkward, heavy b'stard. LOL Most of the weight is in the middle of the cab, and you can't see where you're going when moving it unless you're 7ft tall. It does have castor wheels at the back, but they're not really designed for the cabs weight, mine were knackered from the day I bought it.


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Posted By: J69
Date Posted: 08 Oct 2018 at 10:48am
If it's the one on ebay for £999 it's overpriced


Posted By: retro passion
Date Posted: 08 Oct 2018 at 10:55am
Bloody hell Phil you must be a tall guy to be to tall for most stand up cabs lol no j69 it's not that overpriced ebay cab I have seen that aren't most things on ebay overpriced I'm sure if that were on here it wouldnt get a sale at that price good nick though.

Like to add though most candy cabs including the ls sound I've been offered the control panel unbolts off so should go through any door sideways.


Posted By: robotech
Date Posted: 11 Oct 2018 at 2:05am
I had one of those neo geo cabs and miss it
Exactly the same as the one i used to pile money into as a youth
So the nostalga was there

But i prefer to sit down when playing now
So i play my neo geo games on my chopped naomi
I dont think the games look quite right on the 29 inch screen
As i got used to the smaller screen in the neo geo cab
And as others have said those chinese cabs are well flimsy

Either go for the neo geo or save for a net or blast city
Or one of the quality candy cabs

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Posted By: bomjac
Date Posted: 11 Oct 2018 at 3:58am
I'd say go with the candy. Personally I find the neo-geos to be fugly as sin.

As to height - most cabs were designed with a teenage kid in mind - hence the reason most cabs are a little small for us (now) adults, in our fifth decade.


Posted By: Flinnster
Date Posted: 11 Oct 2018 at 11:57am
Oh mi back! Big smile Yeah sitting is the new smoking. And seeing as I can't be cool smokin' wiv mi mates down the arcade, I'll be cool sitting moaning about my arthritis in my cold games room instead!

I only played woodies back in real arcades. I may have played an early Megalo style cab, but it wasn't until the Trocadero that I saw anything candy-cab related.
But everything I have now is exactly that. I love the classic 80's artwork, but haven't yet bought anything chipboard or ply for the home. A mid 80's sega dedicated would change that though Wink



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Posted By: Brettster
Date Posted: 11 Oct 2018 at 12:27pm
I've had both
kept my candies though :)

you may also need a step down transformer for the Candy cab.
overall I'm a candy fan, usually have better sticks and buttons for fighting games, and more comfortable for extended play sessions



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Posted By: Wurstkopp
Date Posted: 11 Oct 2018 at 12:33pm
Personally I prefer to play my favourite games on the dedicated woodies but if space (and maybe money) is limited then a japanese Sega candy is the way to go. Most Taito, SNK or Jaleco candies will set you back 2000+ nowadays so I'd look for an Aero or Astro City which can be found for around 700-800 or a Blast or (New) Net City (both around 900-1000) if a dependable trisync screen is needed.



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Posted By: bbz149
Date Posted: 11 Oct 2018 at 12:45pm
IMO, yeah that Neo-Geo is an ugly Cab!! Thumbs Down Much prefer the Lordsvale Cab any day!





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Posted By: grobda
Date Posted: 11 Oct 2018 at 3:53pm
had both kept the woodies. the washing machine and fridge cover my white goods needs. ;p

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Posted By: Zipper
Date Posted: 11 Oct 2018 at 5:18pm
similarly, my Welsh dresser gives me my forest-based, organic fix. So I moved on my woodie.


Posted By: Evoga
Date Posted: 22 Oct 2018 at 7:22pm
Someone on arcade otaku marketplace is importing a container load of candies and it includes a few new neo geos. I would purchase from him as it’s an original Japanese candy not a Chinese close.


Posted By: thegreathopper
Date Posted: 22 Oct 2018 at 7:49pm
As above get a proper cabinet, the LS cabs are very poorly built. But out of the clone and the woody, get the woody it’s a great bit of kit.


Posted By: penrhos
Date Posted: 22 Oct 2018 at 11:11pm
Depends what you're playing and how much space / cash you have.

High-res games/MAME then a modern cab with an LCD screen is fine,

Modern low/medium res games then a Candy or a large screen woodie works well.

Old school games - it's got to be a small CRT screen in a woodie - Galaxians looks crap on anything bigger than 25" and so do a lot of the old games and don't even think of using an LCD for them as the up-scaling is horrible.

You can't beat a Lordsvale for perfection for MVS games (but as you can't TATE the screen and only having 4 buttons it stops it being perfect).

I'm burning a whole load of cash over Xmas on a pair of Vewlix for my High-res fix, but I'm keeping one of my JAMMA cabs for the older stuff and also getting a tri-sync candy to cover the rest of the bases. My Driving cab is LCD but that was due to a space/weight issue (and it was cheap).

The best cab is the one you play on the most regardless of what it is....


Posted By: Ex_Mosquito
Date Posted: 04 Nov 2018 at 3:17pm
+1 for a proper Japanese-made cab. The Astro City is particularly robust and made of really thick plastic with a hard coating, I’m not sure exactly what it is but it’s super strong, way more than the later thin Blast city panel. Lucky for me because my boy likes to climb on mine and jump off the panel quite regularly :/



Posted By: penrhos
Date Posted: 04 Nov 2018 at 4:46pm
If you want a Japanese style cab get over to AO and get one on the new cab order - the LS sound is a good cheap neogeo clone but a decent Sega Astro will walk all over it in build quality.





Posted By: Evoga
Date Posted: 06 Nov 2018 at 9:38pm
I used to have the woody UK Neo Geo cabinet as above and a Super Neo Hyper 64 Type 2 which is very close in style to the second model.

If you do have to pick out of just those two I would be the Chinese clone every time as I could never go back to the cheaply designed UK woody models even though I used to always play them in the arcades with my wife (then girlfriend).


Posted By: thegreathopper
Date Posted: 07 Nov 2018 at 12:26pm
I also used to have the Neo Hyper 64 type 2 with the LCD top screen, I wonder if you have my old one. Smile 

 I never owed the LS cab but I had a good inspection when Tone at Killer cabs was importing them, the build quality was bad, the electrics were unsafe and the sticks and buttons and screen... all pretty bad.

Where as the woody electro coin Neogeo cab I had was great. lovely bit of kit for a woody Wink



Posted By: thegreathopper
Date Posted: 07 Nov 2018 at 12:30pm
Maybe I bought my cab from you, Smile I recall a long trip from London to Cardiff... wish I had of kept it, great cab.


Posted By: penrhos
Date Posted: 07 Nov 2018 at 12:51pm
I've re-read the OP and it boils down to what you're looking for.

The Woodie should have a MV6 6-slot in the base, EL panels to light up the mini-marquees, card-reader in the CP, Credit LED panel and the MVS looms to support them.

The LS-Sound will have a Chinese JAMMA loom so will only support an MV1 1-slot without modifications.

Screen wise the Woodie will probably have a 20" Hanty and the LS-Sound a 25" Chinese screen - both will be 15Khz JAMMA only.

The Woodie will be structurally more solid than the LS-Sound.

I've owned both and sold both - these are my experiences.

LS-Sound
I had to completely re-wire mine as the transformer wasn't earthed properly which caused a shimmer on the screen, the loom was replaced as it was one of those cheapo Chinese ones you can get for £10 with about 4 strands of copper in each wire, the buttons and sticks were crap and were replaced with Sanwa ones, I never got the screen 100% how I'd like it, convergence and geometry were a little out in the corners and it always looked a little out of focus.

Neo big-6.
the EL panels were either broken or missing, the card reader was knackered (pins bent), only 3 of the 6 slots in the MV6 worked, HANTY PSU blew a couple of times, burn-in on the screen. Biggest problem I had with it was that it was huge (taller than a Blastcity) and weighed a tonne.

Overall the woodie was a better fit for playing MVS games - But there are two cabs for playing MVS games on that wipe the floor with both of these...

1) Lordsvale NeoGeo - all the benefits of the big-6 but 2/3 of the size and weight.
2) Neo-25 Candy - this is the daddy of Japanese MVS goodness.




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