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Topic: Japan, what's the story?
Posted By: mysticmonk
Subject: Japan, what's the story?
Date Posted: 10 Jan 2019 at 5:06pm
Contemplating a trip over and obviously I'd be all over the arcade stuff. Just a couple of questions for anyone that might know.

Pcbs seem to have gone very expensive there, at least in the likes of specialist shops. But is this reflective of the "homegrown" scene? But is there the likes of buy-and-sell local stuff, just people chucking out stuff? I'm guessing there has to be something like this. I suppose anything exposed to the outside world (yahoo auctions and so on) are practically useless.

Secondly, what about arcade cabinets? I'm assuming they have a lot more floating around than we do, but where do you begin? Just knocking on doors like here? I'd be interested in picking up the mini-sized cabinets like capcom cutes etc because they'd be easier/cheaper to ship. It'll be a cold day in hell before I pay the prices in Europe!

Very difficult to get an inside view on the scene over there :/



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Posted By: mysticmonk
Date Posted: 10 Jan 2019 at 5:11pm
Just to clarify, I think capcom cutes are something like 3 or 4 grand hence the "no way". Other candy cabinets are somewhat reasonably priced I guess


Posted By: jimmerd
Date Posted: 10 Jan 2019 at 6:12pm
This is just a quick overview from my experiences and others may have a more accurate information..

Modern machines are recycled or repurposed/upgraded.
Eventuality they are shipped overseas on bulk (say to China - such as Yaton6262 on ebay) or are imported directly out of Japan on request by a few individuals such as www.RKLOK.nl (good seller btw).  Sometimes stuff ends up on the auction sites, usual thru an arcade operator or after a store closes. Those tend to be more 'sold as seen' or listed as Junk.
Classic machines like the Capcom cute from the 90's are still in the arcades and having a machine at home is even rarer than in the UK due to the average property size being smaller.
A lot of towns even have an arcade or games in local shopping centers people can scratch the itch easily.   There is a healthy PCB collecting scene and some clubs/private arcades.
The prices have gone up and recently I've sold some games back to Japan as it was still cheaper for the seller to import.
So I would say you are best off making communication with an importer who has the contacts.
That said the PCB shops in Japan, such as MAK/GFront. are a great experience and there are some bargains to be had, but it's kind of pot luck what they have in when you go and visit them.





Posted By: mysticmonk
Date Posted: 10 Jan 2019 at 6:24pm
That's interesting, thanks for sharing.

Just going by what youre saying (especially about small properties/not owning machines personally), it does sound like there is a lot knocking around.

Ideally Id love a few months over there, I bet I could dig up some real goldmines, but much harder to do with only a few weeks. Still, could make some headway.

I don't like the idea, at all, of making contact with some middle man, it automatically would jack the price way up. There has to be a more neutral way of getting stuff done. I'm a firm believer in just knocking on doors (and from what you say about plenty of arcades being around), definitely potential. I'd even be thinking of going into the likes of Capcom itself and just seeing what happens.

My overall impression is that the country is a giant unknown quantity. Its kinda cool in that sense.

Thanks for the impression though, it all helps :)


Posted By: Flinnster
Date Posted: 10 Jan 2019 at 10:48pm
Skip to 30 mins in for the good shiz:


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WTD: Outrun DLX cab, Rolling Thunder pcb
Parts WTD: Dino King Door, Coin Box, Coin Chute


Posted By: Flinnster
Date Posted: 10 Jan 2019 at 10:57pm


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WTD: Outrun DLX cab, Rolling Thunder pcb
Parts WTD: Dino King Door, Coin Box, Coin Chute


Posted By: Flinnster
Date Posted: 10 Jan 2019 at 10:59pm


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WTD: Outrun DLX cab, Rolling Thunder pcb
Parts WTD: Dino King Door, Coin Box, Coin Chute


Posted By: Flinnster
Date Posted: 10 Jan 2019 at 11:01pm


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WTD: Outrun DLX cab, Rolling Thunder pcb
Parts WTD: Dino King Door, Coin Box, Coin Chute


Posted By: Flinnster
Date Posted: 10 Jan 2019 at 11:09pm


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WTD: Outrun DLX cab, Rolling Thunder pcb
Parts WTD: Dino King Door, Coin Box, Coin Chute


Posted By: mysticmonk
Date Posted: 10 Jan 2019 at 11:10pm
Oh that looks good :) will check it out tomorrow, thanks!


Posted By: Flinnster
Date Posted: 10 Jan 2019 at 11:22pm
 

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WTD: Outrun DLX cab, Rolling Thunder pcb
Parts WTD: Dino King Door, Coin Box, Coin Chute


Posted By: Flinnster
Date Posted: 10 Jan 2019 at 11:39pm
Shall I stop?

Naaah..

 


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WTD: Outrun DLX cab, Rolling Thunder pcb
Parts WTD: Dino King Door, Coin Box, Coin Chute


Posted By: Flinnster
Date Posted: 11 Jan 2019 at 2:02am
Also worth a watch:



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WTD: Outrun DLX cab, Rolling Thunder pcb
Parts WTD: Dino King Door, Coin Box, Coin Chute


Posted By: trev1976
Date Posted: 11 Jan 2019 at 7:38am
Ugh now I'm depressed


Posted By: itruk
Date Posted: 11 Jan 2019 at 7:52am
Originally posted by Flinnster Flinnster wrote:

Shall I stop?

Naaah..

 



Weren't these bootleg illegal machines? So sent to landfill? iirc..


Posted By: trev1976
Date Posted: 11 Jan 2019 at 8:14am
I thought it was something to do with gambling in china


Posted By: phillv85
Date Posted: 11 Jan 2019 at 8:17am
Originally posted by itruk itruk wrote:

Originally posted by Flinnster Flinnster wrote:

Shall I stop?

Naaah..

 



Weren't these bootleg illegal machines? So sent to landfill? iirc..

Yea, that's not Japan, I can't remember the country (China, Indonesia, Malaysia maybe?) but they got rounded up as part of gambling laws.


Posted By: mysticmonk
Date Posted: 11 Jan 2019 at 1:42pm
"so what did you do in Japan?"

"I spent most the time rummaging in dumps. And it was great! "


Posted By: AnDyC
Date Posted: 11 Jan 2019 at 3:00pm
Originally posted by phillv85 phillv85 wrote:

Originally posted by itruk itruk wrote:

Originally posted by Flinnster Flinnster wrote:

Shall I stop?

Naaah..

 



Weren't these bootleg illegal machines? So sent to landfill? iirc..


Yea, that's not Japan, I can't remember the country (China, Indonesia, Malaysia maybe?) but they got rounded up as part of gambling laws.


China.

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Posted By: Lardonate
Date Posted: 11 Jan 2019 at 3:41pm
With regards to cabinet sales there are second hand cab sellers like  http://am-sevens.jp/" rel="nofollow - http://am-sevens.jp/  and probably loads more. Cabs wise they have mostly modern stuff, Only CRT cabs these guys have are New Net City cabs and they're just under £300, bit more for LCD cabs like Lindberghs and double that for a Vewlix.

I'd organise myself a container filled with treats if I had the funds!


Posted By: mysticmonk
Date Posted: 11 Jan 2019 at 3:49pm
Its that disconnect from not being on the ground, so to speak, having to rely on middlemen.

Theres a vague possibility that I could arrange shipment via a car dealer over there, that would save one part of the headache.

I reckon that if these resellers are charging 300, then if you were there yourself and sourced them yourself face to face with actual arcades/closed arcades/old distributors, maybe you could half that? Maybe less, you never know with these things.

Combining the face to face element, along with less problematic shipping...could be well worth it.

Theres also the other part of the equation, that the last place you'll find these things is the likes of Dublin and London (for obvious reasons). So when we think of Japan, it automatically goes to Tokyo. I'd be willing to bet that Tokyo is picked clean. The real bargains are always furthest away from central cities.

Anyway thanks for the link there, all is useful :)


Posted By: Lardonate
Date Posted: 11 Jan 2019 at 5:54pm
Yup there's got to be tons of old "Game Corners" in far flung places that are still teeming with old machines that they don't know what to do with. I think you would need a local middleman still do deal with storing stuff while you gathered things up to fill a container though, probably not easy for a foreigner to rent storage space/vehicles to move stuff around. 

Makes sense that city locations near ports are the places to get picked clean. Kobe, Osaka and Nagoya would be the next port cities to look at. I wouldn't want to guess at whether there's rich pickings to be had or not. It requires research! I'll have to see what I can find out.


Posted By: Flinnster
Date Posted: 11 Jan 2019 at 6:21pm
One of my fave images:




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WTD: Outrun DLX cab, Rolling Thunder pcb
Parts WTD: Dino King Door, Coin Box, Coin Chute



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