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    Posted: 24 Mar 2017 at 7:19pm
As discussed in the thread here I'm now selling connector kits for:

1) Outrun
2) Power Drift/G-LOC Air Battle/Galaxy Force/Galaxy Force II/Rail Chase/Strike Fighter
3) Space Harrier/Enduro Racer
4) Super Monaco GP
5) Afterburner

They are an ideal solution if you need to make up test looms for these boards, particular given that the 50 pin connectors are troublesome to find.

They are £10 per kit, which includes delivery to the UK.  Additional shipping costs are incurred outside of the UK.  For most European countries postage is £2.55 sent as Royal Mail International Standard (Not Tracked), which is a large letter, upto 100g.

Please note that I am only selling connectors as part of a kit, and not separately.

Cheers!

Update 28-04-2017 - I now sell 26 pin JST connectors (including 26 crimps).  I will sell these separately for £4 including postage in the UK.  Additional shipping costs apply elsewhere.  This are used on lots of Sega boards, including JVS I/O boards.

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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote glstar Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 25 Mar 2017 at 2:27pm
Hi dear.
I need:
1x outrun kit
1x powerdrift kit
1x super monaco gp kit (if you can)
1x Enduro Racer kit (if you can)

Let me know.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Purity Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 26 Mar 2017 at 10:06pm
Originally posted by glstar glstar wrote:

Hi dear.
I need:
1x outrun kit
1x powerdrift kit
1x super monaco gp kit (if you can)
1x Enduro Racer kit (if you can)

Let me know.


I'm not familiar with Enduro Racer or Super Monaco GP pcbs, however from looking at images online it seems that Enduro Racer uses the same connectors as Outrun, but in the following combination:

2x 10 pin connectors
1x 50 pin connector
2x 6 pin connectors

Super Monaco GP uses the same connectors as Powerdrift, but in the following combinations:

2x 10 pin connectors
1x 50 pin connector
2x 6 pin connectors
1x 20 pin connector

So yes, definately looks do-able. 

As I thought, it is quite likely lots of Sega boards share the same connectors.


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Originally posted by Purity Purity wrote:

Originally posted by glstar glstar wrote:

Hi dear.
I need:
1x outrun kit
1x powerdrift kit
1x super monaco gp kit (if you can)
1x Enduro Racer kit (if you can)

Let me know.


I'm not familiar with Enduro Racer or Super Monaco GP pcbs, however from looking at images online it seems that Enduro Racer uses the same connectors as Outrun, but in the following combination:

2x 10 pin connectors
1x 50 pin connector
2x 6 pin connectors

Super Monaco GP uses the same connectors as Powerdrift, but in the following combinations:

2x 10 pin connectors
1x 50 pin connector
2x 6 pin connectors
1x 20 pin connector

So yes, definately looks do-able. 

As I thought, it is quite likely lots of Sega boards share the same connectors.


Yes they should be exactly like that.
Sega uses the same connectors for many of their boards yes.
Could you also provide me with two 26 pin and two 60 pin AMP RA connectors for Sega Type 1 JVS IO?
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I'm afraid I only have 10 pin, 20 pin, and 50 pin connectors.  They are also not JST RA. 

Craig @ Giz10p has 26 and 60 pin JST RA afaik

From my research I found that JST RA are fairly obsolete.  Certainly any size beyond 26 are fairly impossible to find, obviously the above 26 and 60 pin connectors are an exception.

Also if you do manage to find a source of JST RA <50 pin then they are expensive and you would have to buy in bulk i.e. 1000-5000 at a time.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote glstar Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 27 Mar 2017 at 10:44am
Originally posted by Purity Purity wrote:

I'm afraid I only have 10 pin, 20 pin, and 50 pin connectors.  They are also not JST RA. 

Craig @ Giz10p has 26 and 60 pin JST RA afaik

From my research I found that JST RA are fairly obsolete.  Certainly any size beyond 26 are fairly impossible to find, obviously the above 26 and 60 pin connectors are an exception.

Also if you do manage to find a source of JST RA <50 pin then they are expensive and you would have to buy in bulk i.e. 1000-5000 at a time.

Ok don't worry.
If you can, i need the kits i asked you before.
Juet let me know.
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connector kits for Outrun, I'll take a kit please.
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I'll take an Outrun set please.
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I'll take a powerdrift set please Ben
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote LawmanAUT Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 28 Mar 2017 at 1:08pm
Well, I would take 1x outrun kit for my us version upright.
But need shipping to austria, can pay with paypal or bank transfer.

Thx for you effort selling these kits!!
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Sorry, not been on the forum for a few days.

I've been testing the connectors and crimps out to see how it goes, and to maybe provide some info about methods to use.

I'll share my thoughts in the next few days, and I'll then contact the people that have PM'd me and messaged above to see if they would like a set

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Sorry I've been a bit slow to getting round to sorting this.

Myself and a fellow forum member have been trying these out and have been discussing best methods to share with buyers.  I'll elaborate a bit more on this shortly when I've finished my connectors but here's some pics so far:

Video connector on Powerdrift:



Audio and Power (Thick Wire) Connectors on Powerdrift:



Power Connectors on Powerdrift (Thin wire example) :



Control and I/O connectors:







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Some pics from an Outrun board:





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Excellent Ben

I think I'll have an outrun kit alongside my powerdrift kit
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Okey dokey, so here's some thoughts on using the connector kits:

 1) You need a decent crimping tool - I use a Hozan P-706 but Ace had no issues with using the one listed below:

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Crimping-Tool-for-PC-Connectors-Molex-PCIe-HT-225D-2-54mm-Terminal-Crimper-/311009202585?hash=item486997d199:g:3g8AAOxy0NtTBhmp

2) You need to keep the crimps as straight as possible otherwise you will struggle to get them into the connectors.  I found that not applying too much pressure when crimping was the key.  If you apply to much pressure then they will bend making it a bit more difficult to fit.  Obviously you can straighten the pins out with long nosed pliers if necessary to aid fitting.

3) Thin wire (22 AWG) is no problem both for the audio/video and controls aspect.  You can crimp onto the wire and plastic insulation as normal. 

4) Thicker wire (18-19 AWG) for power and ground is a problem, and difficult to fit but not impossible.  What I did was cut a few strands of the wire off, and actually crimp onto the wire.  I found crimping to the plastic insulation impossible.  The pictures show it is possible to use 18-19AWG wire but I would recommend thinner wire.  Ace used thinner wire with no issues.

5) I compared JST RA contacts with the Sega pack contacts and in terms of size for wiring they are pretty identical so you would get the same issues, even if you were using more appropriate connectors

6)  Be careful with the housings as they are fragile.  Don't apply too much force or you will damage them.  The pins should slide in and click into place fairly easily if done correctly.

7) Be careful when plugging the connectors into the board.  There is space either side of the connector so it is possible to misalign it.  Make sure you check this before powering on the board.
I cannot be responsible if you damage your board from the connectors being misaligned.

8)  Despite the connectors not having the extra bits on the end to properly fit into the fittings on the PCB and use the latches, the contacts hold the pins really well.  They stay in nicely on the PCB.  Both myself and Ace found this to be the case.  It's a shame you can't use the latches but as said before this is the best option connector I can find.

9)  You will probably waste a lot of contacts before you get into a flow with it.  However I supply 90 crimps of which you will need to use about a third, so mistakes can be made.  I provide 10 crimps for audio and video of which you need to use 9.  I think it would be better if I make that 15-20 crimps to also allow for mistakes, so I've modified the component list on both packs.

Hopefully this will be useful to others who do this.  Thanks to Ace for his feedback as well as the pictures from his Outrun setup.

I will start to contact people that have shown interest to see if they still wish to buy a pack.

Cheers!



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Nice one Ben, got that crimper myself
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I think I've messaged everyone now.  Cheers!
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (1) Thanks(1)   Quote Purity Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 01 Apr 2017 at 6:44pm
I've updated the pics with the complete Powerdrift connector done, and an example of the Power connector with thin wire, which is a lot easier to do.

Also I wanted to point something out about point 7, and making sure you don't misalign the connectors.  The best thing to do is use the arrows on the AMP connector on the PCB with the first slot on the connector that's being inserted.  I took a picture of what I mean below.  It ensures the alignment is spot on.




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All UK orders shipped.  Will check on European shipping prices, and get back to those that were interested shortly.  Cheers


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kits turned up this morning...

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