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At 23:15 17/09/00, you wrote:
>likewise with a Robotron
>(which DaveE now has and is MAME-ise-ing)

MAMEing a Robotron?

Loads of people here would jump at the chance of a Roby for restoration ....

If he wants a cab to MAME I'll swap the Roby for a JAMMA cab and even throw
in a World cup '90 PCB.

If the Roby has the Marquee and monitor glass I'd pay good money for them.

Whats the groups thoughts on MAMEing classic games like Roby?
 

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>MAMEing a Robotron?

err, how about NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!

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From: Dave Langley <robotron@ntlworld.com>
> MAMEing a Robotron?
> Loads of people here would jump at the chance of a Roby for restoration
....
> If he wants a cab to MAME I'll swap the Roby for a JAMMA cab and even
throw
> in a World cup '90 PCB.
> If the Roby has the Marquee and monitor glass I'd pay good money for them.
> Whats the groups thoughts on MAMEing classic games like Roby?

From: Mike Coates <mcoates@bountysca.co.uk>
> >MAMEing a Robotron?
err, how about NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!

Calm down, calm down... I was originally gonna restore it but with no
control panel (drilled out), no monitor glass (or monitor for that matter)
and no boardset I really didn't have the time/money to spend on it. It was
basically just the carcass (BTW I'm sure I did have a marquee but it was the
wrong size (possibly US?) so my m8 <cough> cut it down to fit) Sideart on it
was pretty good so my mate originally intended restore it back into a
Robotron, and then because he just couldn't source the parts into a Williams
multi-game. Eventually it's just gonna be a MAME cab but hey, that means
it's being used.. not stuck in a garage being stored. How many people here
collect and how many actually play the games they own with any regularity?

--John

FYI my mate is pretty handy when it comes to fixing/restoring boards
etc.whereas I just about manage to alter VHOLD and brightness on the back of
a monitor without getting too many non-lethal shocks. (including fixing a
sound problem on my Gyruss and getting my Star Wars boardset up and
running.. just the monitor to go now Dave :))

DATA Imported from archives: originally posted by John Cassells (john@cassells.screaming.net)
 

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At 09:32 18/09/00, you wrote:
>
> >MAMEing a Robotron?
>err, how about NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!

I'm glad the rest of the group shares my opinion!
MAMEing a Robotron is of course an offence that carries the death penalty!
 

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At 10:32 18/09/00, you wrote:
>Calm down, calm down... I was originally gonna restore it but with no
>control panel (drilled out), no monitor glass (or monitor for that matter)
>and no boardset I really didn't have the time/money to spend on it. It was
>basically just the carcass (BTW I'm sure I did have a marquee but it was the
>wrong size (possibly US?) so my m8 <cough> cut it down to fit) Sideart on it
>was pretty good so my mate originally intended restore it back into a
>Robotron, and then because he just couldn't source the parts into a Williams
>multi-game. Eventually it's just gonna be a MAME cab but hey, that means
>it's being used.. not stuck in a garage being stored. How many people here
>collect and how many actually play the games they own with any regularity?

OK here's the deal ....

My robotron had no side art ... the insides had been knocked our with a
sledge hammer to convert it to horizontal.

It is now an almost perfect Robotron all that it waits on is the following:

New side art (when I get time ... I have a tracing)
Monitor Bezel (time again ... I have a scan)
New CPO + extra JAMMA holes (Roby CPO art is ready for printing once a
printer is found)
New T-Moulding (the finishing touch!)

Of course if anyone has a monitor bezel I'm happy to buy

If you really wanted to restore this robotron you could ...
(I'd even sell my spare Roby set to someone IF IT WAS GOING INTO A CAB)

You can see the complete restoration (so far) of mine on my site:
http://www.robotron-2084.co.uk/indexroby.html

Ask Ian Boffin or Phil Eaton, they have played it!
 

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John,

If the Robotron still has side art then it is one step up from Dave's (which had
been painted over) and mine, which is a Joust. Mine was horrifically Jamma'd to
the point where I would fear for any player's safety. It obviously had no
boardset (thanks Dave), has a pretty knackered ex-Pole Position monitor and a
drilled and battered CP which needs replacing. I'm still fantastically happy
that I have it and have been able to restore it to a playable state. When Rav's
repro panels, marquees and monitor glasses are available it will look
magnificent. There is no reason why your friend's Robotron couldn't be just as
well restored as Dave's or mine... and with good sideart too.

The reason nobody commented on the Gravitar is that it went to XY-Man who did the
decent thing and put Black Widow in it... in keeping with BW being a Gravitar
conversion for the most part. If that was off being MAME'd then I'd have spoken
up. I'd have everything bar a spare monitor and sideart to convert that to Space
Duel.

I suppose it's not, strictly speaking, a hanging offence to MAME a classic... but
when that classic is so desirable and (relatively) easily restorable it is quite
saddening. If I were still looking for a Roby of my own then I'd be pretty
pissed off reading that someone else had given up on restoring it and converted
it to something else.

Admittedly, my conversion of a Joust to a Robotron could upset a devout Joust fan
too, so I'd better shut up now before I shoot myself in the other foot. ;-)

BTW, of all the Robotrons I know of, not one of them languishes in a garage or
storage. It's a game that gets played a lot by its owners, which is why people
go to the effort of restoring them.

Cheers
Ian

Dave Langley wrote:

> At 10:32 18/09/00, you wrote:
> >Calm down, calm down... I was originally gonna restore it but with no
> >control panel (drilled out), no monitor glass (or monitor for that matter)
> >and no boardset I really didn't have the time/money to spend on it. It was
> >basically just the carcass (BTW I'm sure I did have a marquee but it was the
> >wrong size (possibly US?) so my m8 <cough> cut it down to fit) Sideart on it
> >was pretty good so my mate originally intended restore it back into a
> >Robotron, and then because he just couldn't source the parts into a Williams
> >multi-game. Eventually it's just gonna be a MAME cab but hey, that means
> >it's being used.. not stuck in a garage being stored. How many people here
> >collect and how many actually play the games they own with any regularity?
>
> OK here's the deal ....
>
> My robotron had no side art ... the insides had been knocked our with a
> sledge hammer to convert it to horizontal.
>
> It is now an almost perfect Robotron all that it waits on is the following:
>
> New side art (when I get time ... I have a tracing)
> Monitor Bezel (time again ... I have a scan)
> New CPO + extra JAMMA holes (Roby CPO art is ready for printing once a
> printer is found)
> New T-Moulding (the finishing touch!)
>
> Of course if anyone has a monitor bezel I'm happy to buy
>
> If you really wanted to restore this robotron you could ...
> (I'd even sell my spare Roby set to someone IF IT WAS GOING INTO A CAB)
>
> You can see the complete restoration (so far) of mine on my site:
> http://www.robotron-2084.co.uk/indexroby.html
>
> Ask Ian Boffin or Phil Eaton, they have played it!

DATA Imported from archives: originally posted by Ian Boffin (ian@vaxxian.demon.co.uk)
 

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What's all the fuss about... I MAMEed a Star Wars upright and I must say it
looks very nice. It was a bugger getting all the parts out of it, actually
had to smash the crt to get it out, fitting the PC monitor was a bit of a
bind... and as for drilling the cp to fit six buttons, an opto spinner and a
trackball... that's when I found out how well Atari cabs were made.

:) <-
 

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latest UKVAc meet? Flame war imminent? Surely not?

But while I'm here......

I've tried both approaches: I acquired a Tempest that had been badly
converted to 1942 and managed to return it to near original state (bar
control panel- hint, hint), this involved getting pcbs from the states, etc.
I also had a ropey Star Wars cockpit that I JAMMAtised because I had no
space left for a dysfunctional cabinet and hey, where do you think I got the
monitor from for my tempest :) I don't feel that guilty because I've modded
the cabinet in such a way that it could be returned to a Star Wars without
anyone being the wiser.

Mind you I do spend more time playing my games than restoring them so I
guess I'm missing the point :)
 

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Guys,

All of this discussion begs the question; How much conversion
is acceptable?

I have a TAITO cocktail cab which has been converted at
various points in it's life several times. The conversions
include; addition of an eight way joystick and second fire
button, SI to Konami and (most recently) Konami to JAMMA.
Those of you on the list who've seen the machine will
probably agree that it's a right old hatchet job, but it
is still running arcade games.

Now, I'd like to convert this back to it's original condition,
but the simple fact is that it just wouldn't be as useful
to me as a dedicated SI - as it stands I can use it for
anything from SI/galaxian, through pac-man, scramble, 1942
right up to super-qix or Jaelco game paradise, I don't think
that this makes me a bad person - and I'm not advocating
converting a mint condition SI to JAMMA - I'm just making
the most of the various hacks that have already been applied
to the machine.

This is an important question for me, I have a streets
defender, another (wood-only) TAITO cocktail and an attack
UFO cocktail sitting in my cellar waiting for conversion.
My current plans are to turn the attack UFO (generic SI
clone, I don't have the original monitor/PCB's/whatever)
into a MAME cab. The streets defender is destined to be
a williams multigame and the TAITO is being used for spares.
In their current condition, none of these cabs is fit
for anything else other than as a pretty (and, in the case
of the streets, not even that pretty) coffee table...

So, how far could (or _should_) I convert before I become
guilty of ruining these cabs?

Cheers
Chris
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