And you thought it was new technology

[Bods]

Just wondered what technology you know that most probably think is new but its not

Example: Microwave oven came out late 70s maybe but first commercial microwave used in 1947

Some ive found

I was looking at whats first car with auto metal roof convertible car, thought mine was quite early in 1993 with electric targa top but Peugeot had one in 1935

ford in late 60s

How many thought Stop/Start was new in last 20 years
Well you could buy Golf diesel in 90s and think Fiat was another and some others too

Found out about that when i bought old magazine on Honda Civic Vei model, wish i'd know all this before buying cars, they did a comparison with this diesel stop/start Golf, would have to find mag to get name of model, firstly they compared diesel golf with petrol civic for mpg, that was the test, these are 1993

Golf was quite slow from memory and they commented on brakes because when you slow down say coming upto island or lights, said the engine would cut out, so no engine to slow it down and brakes wernt too good standard and didnt even upgrade them for coasting to a stop, shouldn't take journalists to point simple stuff out

After all the tests they did no surprise the golf won on mpg, problem is though they didnt understand how the civic works, not sure if thats there fault for not doing job properly or Honda's fault for not explaining the tech on the Civic because brochures i bought dont explain it really, civic works using lean burn, other car manufacturers tried lean burn but most failed i think to make it work or be easy to work on your average driver

Ecu controls the lean burn mode, one issue is higher emmissions at lower mixture but they sorted it, other is running issues. What helped Honda is there Vtec system, ive seen loads of boy racers that bought the vei and selling em saying Vtec works great and its fast

its not used on this for performance its used to help mpg, without vtec engaged its running pretty much as 12 valve mode so its slower, when vtec switches over its running 16v mode which then does increase power a bit, you can feel it pickup but then its just running as any other 16v honda, engine is VTec-E for economy, ecu controls switch over but if you aren't careful with accelerator it will run in 16v mode most of time, also lean burn wont work because you have to keep it under 2500rpm for it to work, doesn't work till engine warmed up to nearly normal and i dont think early ones had lean burn indicator light on dash so you won't know when in lean burn, can only press accelerator so much percentage else it drops out lean burn

Sounds like its difficult, its not just be light on accelerator, change gear before going over 2500rpm, lean burn only works in 3rd, 4th and 5th if drops out then ease off gas and comes back on, so it kinda teaches you how to drive economically without that saving fuel

So no indication on dash and not told or found how it works, it was no way a fair test, when they described what they were doing it annoyed me because they arent using lesn burn

The later civics like the 1998 one i had now has econo light on dash, just keep it on and i got 49mpg to work n back, gear ratios are really long so did about 35/40 in first gear, 5th gear meant 2600rpm at 60mph, then i took engine out and put in HRV but 5th gear didnt work on lean burn over 50mph because of gear ratio wasnt correct so had to swap 5th gear so its same as civic and works and last 2 runs i got over 48mpg, civic would of been over 50mpg on long runs but hardly any bought those old civic vei, honda at fault a bit though not making big deal about it

Sorry rambling again

Also in old 80s car magazine it says about stop/start then, google it they been playing with it since 1960s, reckon that civic would of been on par pretty much with that golf if drove right, if honda put stop/start on civic too it would of beat it

Theres an advert for BMW in 90s mag, said there bringing out electric car and would have over 300 miles range, really most cant do that now, imagine batteries in 90s

 

[bones]

I remember finding out that the military were using lithium ion batteries in the late 60s early 70s and we had to use those god awful ni-cad ones for years and years.
Also TVs, my friend had a faulty Sharp LCD that went wrong 1 month after the years warranty was up,think he bought it new in 2015 from a Currys type shop. When I researched it I found that the his particular model had ceased production in 2012. So basically somewhere in Europe there's a massive warehouse where these are stored and your all singing dancing TV you've just bought is probably 2 or 3 years old before it gets into circulation GRRR.
Btw I fixed it,crappy Chang capacitors on the PSU board.

 

[Bods]

Sure there was something else i found but cant think now

Thats interesting on the batteries, will have to look that up

If it was Comet they used to sell some junk, they sold items as new but the were 2nd hand b grade stock been repaired. Specially the early days, when my dad bought portable colour TV for brothers xmas present mid 80s, first one dead, 2nd something else wrong, 3rd channel display faulty so 3 trips keep going back then got Grundig, was monitor style one which was ok and he had that for years

I bought an Aiwa Tape Deck, speed was wrong, so when you recorded it played back fine on that but on anything else it was fast, annoying that but didn't realise back then i could of altered pot in motor to set speed correct so deffo been repaired by some muppet, sold as brand new boxed

 

[tronads]

Stop/Start wasn't as late as the 90's.
I had 1970's Mk1 Escorts (and a '69 at one point) that all had it. They would stall at every junction unless I pulled the choke out 1/8th of an inch.

 

[Bods]

Stop/Start wasn't as late as the 90's.
I had 1970's Mk1 Escorts (and a '69 at one point) that all had it. They would stall at every junction unless I pulled the choke out 1/8th of an inch.

i thought you were being serious then because on internet it says they have experimented with stop/start since 60s and 70s

maybe my rover 216 EFI wasn't faulty then, that used to cut out when i stopped at lights too

Once drove home from work in rover 213 just on the choke

 

[Ropi Jo]

Another 'new' tech is supercaps (super capacitors). Seeing them touted like they've never existed before.

I first saw them in early 80's as memory backup supplies in video recorders.

Probably used long before that....

 

[Bods]

Yeah, there like a mix of capacitor and battery arent they, have them in Panasonic VHS Recorders

Something else i thought of yesterday while ive been tidying up things, i bought a couple of beds for the other rooms a few years back, wanted stuff 1980s and these plastic ones are, they come apart in sections and just clip together, forget the guys name that invented them, they came with Memory Foam Mattress, most are missing them now but Single one i have still has original and its still perfect

 

[digweed]

The first electric car was invented in 1890-1 so been around for 131 years now

 

[Bods]

That was interesting on car programmes with electric cars that were some of the first around, had them on Jay Leno didnt they

Was looking up on these beds, james seccombe in Redditch, mattress on my single is original, it has summer smooth fabric side and fluffy fury winter side, deffo has no springs or anything and understood to be memory foam

Had a search on memory foam, invented with nasa for seats and says first was swedish bed in 1991 that had mattress in memory foam, so how do the explain these, lots say are 70s some 80s, mattress still perfect though after all these years, one ive had a few years is shot already

 

[Bods]

I thought the Mk1 CRX when i realised had front nose and wings being plastic was early for 1983 yet 1941 Ford made car with all panels plastic

 

[Bods]

Kind of relevant to this post as its what we should have seen. I Cant believe what ive just seen driving to work but i'll mention that when i have peoples attention

there are intelligent people here I Know

I urge you all to watch and listen to this, bare in mind this is 1995

Understand why I dont Like that Saying "Think Tank" now

incredible i'd sayBods2021-10-24 20:21:40

 

[Bods]

Has no one hear Woken up yet?

You know what, if I'd told people the things my mum has been saying to me in last few months... I would of said, She is loosing the Plot but I'm now on her level

Why wouldn't you trust your own Mum!

Yep you probably will think i've lost the plot but now I'm seeing things in a different way. Think I know why I'm so negative about things, I haven't liked the way Technology has been going for a long while, I've been questioning so many things that are happening

Is no one else seeing what's going on with Technology, I am now

 

[Macro]

The one I remembered reading ages ago is that one of the big building companies won an award for a new technique for doing joints

apparently it was also used in the pyramids!

 

[Vamino]

Going down the rabbit hole can be a mind expanding thing, I went deep down there just after 9/11 and stayed down there for a few years trying to find the answers to questions that was on my mind, 'why' and 'who is to blame'.

Whilst it can be an enlightening place, it can also be a dangerous place. Down the rabbit hole every question that was answered then multiple questions manifested.

After coming back up for air it then took a while for me to descramble and process that data. Keeping what was relevant and discarding what was not relevant wasn't an easy thing to overcome as my mind got really overloaded with that data. It was a dark place at times.

What I got out of it was I can only do what I can do, and I have the choice to direct my energy into things I agree with and not fuel the things I disagree with. People need to push in the same direction rather than pull each other down like crabs in a barrel. If enough people push in the same direction things get done.

What people pay attention to, people become conscious of. And a lot of people are becoming conscious of a whole manner of things they were not aware of. Real eyes, realise, real lies.

Most of the world is in a psychological storm right now and as individuals all we can do is try to assist each other where we can. This system is designed to twist the mind, and once you see it for what it is, you can free your mind and give personal realisations to people at the start of that journey.

I've got a lot of respect for Mr Icke and his family. He goes deep down the rabbit hole and then gives people the answer, and that answer is Love. Poison affects the container it's contained in, and there's a lot of poisonous stuff out there which I don't want to be a container for.

 

[Vamino]

As for technology, the Egyptians had mad tech we can't even comprehend. Toys that were aerodynamically perfect and other amazing things.

I like to keep is simple as there's a real danger of us serving the tech that is supposed to serve us. Smart this and smart that, put all your life on your phone and if the battery runs out or your screen gets cracked your fekked.

That's not to say I'm against tech, when it's used a tool it can be useful. But depending on tech to essentially live and function in society, it's a very dangerous thing to depend on imo.

But there's just something interesting about the combustion engine. It's far more interesting to me than electric cars. I'd like an electric car at some point, but sitting in a cockpit with computer screens silently gliding along being driven by the car is a far departure from Sterling Moss driving around a racetrack on the ragged edge.

And as for arcade games, which believe it or not is the main reason I post on this forum. Do people really want to play games using their mind like Elon Musk now has monkey's playing Pong? Or is the tactile nature of using a joystick better? How would people using their mind compare to people using a Joystick? is it even a fair challenge?

Vamino2021-10-25 22:58:18

 

[Ropi Jo]

You want deep?

What if 'CAT', really spelled 'DOG'

 

[Vamino]

'Great game Pager, and what better reward for a monkey, than a banana!'

 

[Stickman]

I used to work for a company in Market Harborough that made commercial electric vehicles way back in the 1920's and 30's

Take a look at the van, I reckon Elon Musk got inspiration for the new pickup from that!

Stickman2021-10-27 14:19:59

 

[Vamino]

I wonder if people actually bought those cars? It would be interesting to know what range they had compared to milk floats and the like.

Just read the text on that pic though....What the heck is a wireless car!
Is that in the same class as a horseless carriage?

My Nan used to tell me about trams running all over Birmingham up until the mid 1900's. The trams became obsolete so they dug up the rails from the roads and transitioned most of the passenger transport trams to diesel buses.

Now fast forward to today, lucky for us brummies in 2022 Birmingham they will unveil a new system of passenger transport vehicles to connect Birmingham city center to a couple of surrounding areas. They've dug up some roads in the city center over the past couple of years and laid rails. They call these new passenger transport vehicles trams'.

Now that's progress!

Vamino2021-10-27 16:27:49

 

[Stickman]

I wonder if people actually bought those cars? It would be interesting to know what range they had compared to milk floatss and the like.

Just read the text on that pic though....What the heck is a wireless car!
Is that in the same class as a horseless carriage?

My Nan used to tell me about trams running all over Birmingham up unto the mid 1900's. The trams became obsolete so they dug up the rails from the roads and transitioned most passenger transport to diesel buses.

Now fast forward to today, lucky for us brummies in 2022 Birmingham they will be unveiling a new system of passenger transport to connect Birmingham city center to surrounding areas. They dug up some roads in the city center over the past couple of years and laid rails. They call these new passenger transport vehicles trams'.

Now that's progress!

I never saw one to be honest they were trying to track one down, probably had 500 mile range and charged in 20 minutes

, we made automation for the logistics business in my time, we had some real funky machines, the owner at that time used to come up with a idea, sketch it out literally on a fag packet and then get it made, never forget working on a machine that transported used nuclear waste in these large flasks (as they were called) for the Atomic Weapons Establishment, and our machine would all of the sudden stop steering...not what you really want happening, hoping your radiation check device did not start bleeping