OT - what was your first car

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Dunno why but I was thinking back on all the crappy cars I've had over the years right back the the first one back in 1989 - a Vermillion Triumph Dolomite 1500 with overdrive switch (which had no noticeable effect). It was comfy (I slept in it on occasion) and cheap, just £100. It died spectacularly (engine blew) after about 3 months on the m25 and cost me a further £125 to get towed off.

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Slightly OT from the OT, but I remember an ex-gf's car showing signs of a rather nasty water pump leak from the bearings - a crunching noise that was audible from inside the car was the subtle clue that had been increasing in loudness over the past month...

As we were poor young students at the time (and she was about to sell the car to buy a death-trap mini) I decided that I'd replace the water pump myself instead of paying somebody to do it. Bonus points with the gf can't hurt eh? And car bits aren't that different to Lego & Meccano right?

So it only had 4 bolts holding it in, and they were almost reachable too! Got the spanner on the first, mentally repeated the "righty tighty, lefty loosen" over and over and turned the spanner.

CRACK

As the first bolt sheared off. Bummer.

Move onto the next bolt, give it a veeeeery gentle turn and,

CRACK




OK. Still not too worried as there's got to be some redundancy in the number of bolts used versus the number required for a watertight seal right?

On to bolt number three and this time I was very very very super gentle. And the bugger loosened and came out. Wahay!

The last remaining bolt was diagonally opposite this one so I figured if I got the last out there'd be enough bolts to reattach the replacement pump.

Made a small sacrifice to the knuckle-skin gods whilst getting in place, twisted the spanner with the gentleness of Mother Teresa blessing a small orphan, applied the force of a new-born sparrow belching and

CRACKKKKKK




This one seemed to resonate around the garage for a good 2 minutes as I lay across the wing of the car thinking "WTF am I going to do? One bolt? One f**king bolt?"

Never one to be overcome by adversity, I decided to drill out the stumps and somehow remove them. Fortunately for everyone's sake there wasn't enough room to get a drill in there (I'd not yet thought about how I'd re-tap the holes, or whether I'd go too far and drill into one of the cooling tunnels circulating the block). Nor was there anything I could remove to make more room, unless I was willing to remove the suspension and by this stage I was much more keen to put things back on than take more off. We did briefly discuss lifting the engine out, but scratched that as we didn't have a Haynes manual for the car, nor more importantly did we have a winch. Nor could we be arsed.

So then we tried bouncing the engine up and down on the rubber bushings (which showed that a couple of them appeared to be missing in action) to see if that left room for a drill, but fortunately for car lovers and road users everywhere this wasn't going to work.

So having half-assedly tried one attempt at making a good repair, I went into bodge-o-matic mode. I had the new water pump and gaskets and happened upon the drawer of adhesives! A quick sort through the drawer and problem solved; I had about 5 kilos of Araldite and hardener.

Further hunting around didn't turn up a clamp, but I had an idea forming. Bolts were used to grab the water pump tight against the block, so surely glue would grab it equally well? Of course!

So I fit the pump to the block, loosely inserted the sole remaining bolt and then mixed up a dining-plate sized pool of epoxy. I very carefully started daubing epoxy onto the face of the water pump, and then realised it might be an idea to remove the bits of old gasket that were suck to the block. Too late. And f**k it, she's selling it soon anyway.

So about 20 minutes later, working against the clock of the hardening epoxy (which seemed to be going off a bit slowly, almost as if I'd got the epoxy/hardener ratio wrong...) I'd managed to distribute about two kilos of epoxy resin all over the face of the water pump, bits of the block where there were significant lumps of old gasket, and everything directly below the area I was working. And also up to my armpits.

Now it was do or die time: time to fit the pump. Ex-gf held it in place as I started tightening the sole bolt. I was really keen not to snap this one, so it didn't really go much more than finger tight. Which was lucky as she'd not realised the pump should meet up with the identically shaped face of the block ("You never said I had to make sure it didn't move!"), so the pump was rotated about 45 degrees. A bit of wrangling and eventually it sort of looks ok. So tighten the bolt a bit more and all the epoxy oozed out the gaps making what I was sure would be a lovely tight seal.

We both stood back to admire our handwork and noticed that the corner with the bolt was nice and tight, but you could almost get your finger in the opposite corner
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. A few games of scissors, rock, paper later (always choose paper btw) and "we" decided I'd hold the pump in place whilst the epoxy set. And set it didn't. For hours. It seems my guesstimation of how much hardener was required was slightly off the mark.

Heating things with a hot air gun didn't help much (as I found out years later that Araldite melts around 90-100 degrees) so I just jammed some blocks of wood, bits of paper and passing strangers into the engine compartment to force the pump against the block. By this point it was getting a bit chilly so we retired inside.

An hour or three later this thought in my brain that had been trying to crystallise for some time finally made itself known - if epoxy was dribbling around the pump so much, what if it was dribbling inside? What if it was sticking to the impeller and/or shaft? The water pump wouldn't be much good if the impeller never turned. sh*t! So back into the garage it was to finish off this "30 minute job".

When I opened the bonnet, it turned out the only single bit of intuition I'd had that was correct was that glue had slid down onto the impeller and set it solid
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. Much hunting around for large heavy tools to hit it with and I finally managed to free up the impeller shaft, although it didn't exactly feel like a nice new set of bearings. Possibly due to the half kilo of epoxy which was probably now bonded to the sodding impeller and everything I had hit the bastard drive belt fitting with.

I can't remember how long I laid over the wing, turning the impeller shaft to make sure it didn't stick, but I'm sure the sun was coming up when I'd finished and any glue which was going to set had long since done so. Mainly on the floor under the car, or in the form of stalactites underneath the car.

The only way to rescue some dignity from this disaster was to refill the cooling system, fire up the engine and listen to the utter lack of "bearings mixed with grit" sound and enjoy with great satisfaction the engine temp indicator not going into the red.

I think it was less than 10 seconds between turning on the engine and the first fountain appearing.

By this point, the main topic of conversation for certain "mechanics" was the best place to take the car to set it on fire and make an insurance claim, except the ex-gf pointed out it was the middle of summer and it was awfully dry around and we might end up with a bigger fire than expected.

So drain the system, mark the areas of the pump/block join we saw water squirting from and then patch with more epoxy - hey, if it was good enough to hold the pump on, it's good enough to stop the water right? I also used bits of the new gasket (which had somehow removed itself from the pump as I was fitting it, ok?) to stuff in the holes and seal with more epoxy.

By the time we finished, it'd taken about 2 days, £20-30 for a water pump and about £300 in Araldite. And was only leaking a little bit. And the car was only nosing down a bit on the right due to the weight of all the glue.

She put on one of her tightest tops and the car was sold to some unfortunate fool lucky soul two days later. Caveat emptor.

The only other car stories I have that are beyond the statute of limitations are one involving rolling a Mk II Escort into an electricity substation[1] and another from a few weeks ago where I was using a plasma torch to cut out the back half of a Ford Pop and ended up eating a lump of white hot molten metal. I don't think it's safe to share the story of being chased between Leeds & Bradford in a blizzard by a series of coppers in Volvo T5s as we wanted to see how fast they could go. Best looking police car ever!

signed,

Mr X

[1] This one may be shared at Rob's meet assuming I get pissed, so buy me a glass of wine if you want to hear that one. It involves tales of hot girls, bunking off, clotting red stuff on the windscreen and under-age naughtiness (I was underage, not her!). And hiding some inexplicably broken fingers from a wide selection of parents. That f**ker rolled at least three time! Personal best
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One minor detail I forgot to add. As a true professional I even glued the bolt heads back onto their respective places on the water pump to make sure it looked "proper"
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trm said:
One minor detail I forgot to add. As a true professional I even glued the bolt heads back onto their respective places on the water pump to make sure it looked "proper" 
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I'm guessing thats what the previous "mechanic" had done as well
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Mk 2 Escort - 1600 Sport (Was when I finished it anyway)

Then the RS2000 nose cone, X-Pac etc..

One night bloke over the road reversed into it while doing a (5)3 point turn and killed it
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Only found this out 3 years later

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A very old style mini (I don't know too much about cars but the front / bonnet was completely 'flat' - no detailing or shape around the headlights at all). With a manual 'choke' - that was around, oh... maybe 1992? It was my work car for one year during university placement and broke down almost every frickin day. Sub frame was completely gone and needed a replacement by a fella at work who was a bit of an enthusiast. Its end came when it was broken into and the radio was stolen - worth more than the car! Then, it had to go. Replaced by a red Maestro and thats another story altogether!
 

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mine is a 1989 small bumper atlas gray mk2 golf gti 8v
being the 8 valve version i must be carefull driving it as the 8v is known for its huge amounts of torque and its possable if i pulled off too fast at the traffic light gand prix i could spin the world backwards

i bought it on ebay for 350 quid but have since spent well over a grand in the last 2 years keeping it on the road, underneath looks like a new car...........i sold almost all my arcade stuff just to fund the parts list!

lucky for me my best mate is a mechanic and has his own garage and that is the only reason it is still on the road to this day as the garage bills would be astronomical

but i love it and will probably be buried in it if it dont kill me first
 

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I guess I'll admit to my first car being a Datsun Cherry estate
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In my defence, I had a cool motorbike and was a dispatch rider by then, I just needed somthing capable of transporting things like, well, spare engines and the like
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- that bike, A Kwacka ZR550 with custom paint job (by me with orange and blue tins from Halfords!!) went through about 100,000 miles and two breaks in the frame due to shear weight of load from the panniers before finally being flogged to some yank who paid me so much for it, in cash, I even hitched home from where I was working nights in a petrol station that was closing for refurbishment the next morning. I've never felt so happy, hitching home from work for the last time knowing I'd just lost my job! And I only found out about the snapped frame when I took it in to report this funny cracking noise I'd been able to hear for the past few weeks every time I braked
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Happy Days !! (oblivious days!)

I had the Datsun since before I had a license and used to drive it everywhere with my mate who had newly passed his test in the passenger seat (laws were simpler in those days!) The Datsun didn't last many months after passing my test though. I rather embarrassingly ploughed into two parked cards because I was too busy turning round and giving someone the finger for cutting me up. Never have had great co-ordination
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Datsun 280z - got it 6 months before I had a license from a mate who emigrated to Spain.

also had a variety of motorbikes beore then, FS1E -> Super Dream -> 750FX2 etc.
 

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Forgot to add, my first car was known as "The Vermilion Falcon", well at least it had the whole "hunk of junk" part anyway...
 

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A nice white 2 door Seat Ibizia, it was my grans, she gave it to me, when I moved to London for a period of my life, I left the car at my parent, apparently as it sat there for so long people rang the police saying it had been dumped. (despite it being fully taxed and clean) So I came home and sold it to my mate for £100 all was working fine, but a month after he bought it the complete electrics in it died. He was furious and thought I had known about it all along. which I didn't! but I did feel bad.
 

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In 1989 I bought a 1973 Morris Marina coupe for £145 from a house mate who let me pay in 3 easy instalments.

Great car for around 18 months then the clutch went and it wasn't worth fixing.

Moved on to a 1986 Renault 11 TXE Electronic 1.7 after that which was an altogether smarter and more comfortable affair.

Cheers,

Ralph.
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A black Fiesta Supersport on an X plate. Great little car, just needed a fifth gear because if you went over 60 mph it deafened you.
 

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A 1.3 Metro in gold of all colours, bought it off my then girlfriends parents for fifty quid, drove it home and the clutch went so they game me the money back, then took 2 weeks to get it back and pay for another clutch.
I remember it had a massive problem that if you floored it the engine would die so I could never overtake anything!
 

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Mine was a 1981 Mk. 3 Escort, with a whopping 55bhp. Oh yes.

Despite its shortcomings and problems, it was a lot of fun and survived several summer camping journeys down to Cornwall, all the way from Poole.

So the main issues were as follows:

  • the fuel gauge didn't work unless the tank was more than 3/4 full, so I ran out of fuel at least once every couple of weeks.
  • It wouldn't start in damp weather, so I'd have to take the spark plugs out, wipe them off and put them back in, after which it would reluctantly start. I had to do this so often when late for work that I could do it in less than 5 minutes eventually.
  • The engine would also get pretty hot on long journeys, so I had to keep the speed below 60, and also have the heater on full blast periodically to help keep things cool. Clearly this wasn't ideal when it was 27 degrees C outside, and we were still 200 miles from St Ives.
  • The manual choke knob had to be held out with a clothes peg when the engine was cold, otherwise it would just slide back in and stall just as you tried to pull out onto that busy main road.
  • There was also a well-documented issue on Mk.3's where the battery tray rusted and allowed water to leak into the passenger footwell, so on very wet mornings I'd have to bail a couple of litres of water out of the car before setting off.
  • It would sometimes pop out of gear just as you went to pull away, which my mates thought was hilarious as I sat there revving and not going anywhere.
  • For the whole time I had it, the engine made a hell of a racket, so much so that my mate said he could hear me coming 2 streets away. Then about 2 days before I sold it, he noticed that one of the engine mounts was broken and the engine was resting against something else in the engine bay (can't remember exactly what, might've been the bulkhead). Either way he managed to fix it, and for the last 2 days I owned it, it was like having a new engine it was so much quieter). Then I sold it to some girl and I think it died shortly afterwards.
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Other than that it was just the usual old car issues like the carb would get blocked, floorpan was rusted out, etc. But despite all this, I do have fond memories of it (not fond enough to want another one though!).
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trm said:
I think it was less than 10 seconds between turning on the engine and the first fountain appearing.

By this point, the main topic of conversation for certain "mechanics" was the best place to take the car to set it on fire and make an insurance claim, except the ex-gf pointed out it was the middle of summer and it was awfully dry around and we might end up with a bigger fire than expected.

So drain the system, mark the areas of the pump/block join we saw water squirting from and then patch with more epoxy - hey, if it was good enough to hold the pump on, it's good enough to stop the water right? I also used bits of the new gasket (which had somehow removed itself from the pump as I was fitting it, ok?) to stuff in the holes and seal with more epoxy.

By the time we finished, it'd taken about 2 days, £20-30 for a water pump and about £300 in Araldite. And was only leaking a little bit. And the car was only nosing down a bit on the right due to the weight of all the glue.

She put on one of her tightest tops and the car was sold to some unfortunate fool lucky soul two days later. Caveat emptor.

Bloody hell Tim. Was she your girlfriend for much longer after this?
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Hehehe. I did find your description amusing Danny :) I think the thread should be retitled, "What amusing tales do you have of your cars".

As for the good old Nova owning ex, she did indeed stick around for quite a few more years. I think she liked the idea that if I could come up with a solution like that, then I'd be useful in the forthcoming zombie apocalypse
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She scored points for only turning down the "fix by fire" method for there being no safe place to do it. Not that I would have anyway - I misunderstood the fire aspect of insurance policies - didn't realise it only covered accidents ;)

The MkII Escort and electricity substation is way funnier but definitely not for publication unfortunately. Even my current gf doesn't know all the details about that one! I believe the girl involved in that one is now quite famous which is another reason not to commit it to the permanent record.
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A T-Reg, 1 ltr, Ford Fiesta. Ah, them where the days. The car was as old as me (17ish at the time) but done me well for 1 year till i got the feel of the road.

Rudolpho was his name
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