Royal Mail are taking the pi**!

[Vamino]

When you have your eyes open and can see all the blatant and obvious disinformation and constant propaganda it's terrifying but most people don't have the time to wade through the lies and presume what they read and see in the media is true.
However the much bigger problem is that pretty much all mainstream media is controlled by the same powerful people with the same agenda and unfortunately for us they also control our government.

My eyes are closed and I haven't got time to wade through the lies, so could you give an example of who please.

Edit (again). Nah, forget it, this is way off topic.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/mediaaction/about/funding

Norad and the Bill and Melinda gates foundation? yeah, there's gonna be some real quality journalism with those entities on board funding things.

Some random questionable things I've come across over the years. The BBC's cover up of Jimmy saville's deviant behaviour, blatant lies of Iraqi weapons of mass destruction, lack of public inquiry into the contents of Hunter Biden's laptop, and to finish off, the exploits of the so called elite on Jeffrey epsteins Peado Island where they seemingly got away with it. Although the quality meme filled interviews with Prince Andrew and Bill Gates giving excuses why they associated with a known pedophile will stand the test of time, they simply kept flying out multiple times to his island for some reason, apparently Bill needed funding for his pet projects.

The point is that the same media who are supposed to be unbiased are suggesting Post Office workers and London Underground workers are ungrateful people, yet the truly questionable people are given a pass. It really is a disgusting state of affairs, politicians used to be sacked for lying, now they mock people by creating foundations and whatnot.

Vamino2022-12-10 22:13:17

 

[_Matt_]

Watching the news isn't going to give the you full story though mate, especially since the government own the BBC and make the narrative one sided.

You're suggesting the Tory government and the BBC are in cahoots?

I couldn't think of two groups any less likely to collaborate.

The chairman of the BBC and head of the BBC board that is responsible for maintaining independence is Richard Sharp who is an ex banker who worked at JP Morgan and Goldman Sachs where he was Rishi Sunaks boss. He was an advisor to Boris Johnson while London Mayor, and to Rishi Sunak while Chancellor. He's donated over £400,000 to the Conservative Party (that we know of).

That's not proof of anything of course, the proof is the constant disinformation and endless propaganda spouted by our corrupt government over the last 2 years which is then regurgitated by all forms of BBC media no matter how unfounded or nonsensical the lie was.

 

[Chihiro]

I think England is the only country in the world with a privatised water system.

 

[John Bennett]

Mick Lynch was interviewed on the Today program this week and he certainly made his point. I've never got the impression from the BBC that I listen to, that Post Office and Underground workers are ungrateful, bad people.

And as for BBC Tory bias, wasn't Dorries pretty much on the warpath to do away with the BBC? They utterly skewer the government, to the point I'm surprised anyone comes on for interview (Boris pretty much gave up being interviewed). I just find it bemusing - the BBC seems to be simultaneously accused of being biased in every possible direction.

John Bennett2022-12-10 22:22:22

 

[Vamino]

Mick Lynch was interviewed on the Today program this week and he certainly made his point. I've never got the impression from the BBC that I listen to, that Post Office and Underground workers are ungrateful, bad people.

And as for BBC Tory bias, wasn't Dorries pretty much on the warpath to do away with the BBC? They utterly skewer the government, to the point I'm surprised anyone comes on for interview (Boris pretty much gave up being interviewed). I just find it bemusing - the BBC seems to be simultaneously accused of being biased in every possible direction.

It's a very perverted form of journalism imo.

All I seem to encounter/hear is, but they rejected the 3% pay rise and now we all have to suffer their strikes, the nurses can't get to work, people are missing their hospital appointments after waiting 2 years, kids can't get to school, businesses can't recover fully after covid restrictions with all these strikes, the unions won't negotiate etc etc. Basically putting all the blame on the people who are actually the ones being sh*t on....

When something important that needs to be reported on, the BBC goes silent and just sticks up another story documenting how people don't have money to spend. On the flip side, I don't want to visit a website full of conspiracy theories as that can do my head in too. Fortunately the conspiracies are starting to run thin on the ground as most of them seem to be coming true!

The system will end up creating starving people, then the next batch of pile-of-tricks candidates will shout from the rooftops that they can solve hunger. Once in power they don't solve anything and their promises are forgotten about once people have new worries to concentrate on. It's really not about supporting blue or red.

Vamino2022-12-10 23:24:39

 

[northwest]

I think England is the only country in the world with a privatised water system.

I didn't know Wales and Scotland are nationalised.

 

[strykr]

Lot of tinfoil hat action on here lately...

 

[Chihiro]

I think England is the only country in the world with a privatised water system.

I didn't know Wales and Scotland are nationalised.

"England and Wales became the only countries in the world to have a fully privatised water and sewage disposal system. In Scotland and Northern Ireland, water and sewerage services remained in public ownership."

 

[northwest]

I think England is the only country in the world with a privatised water system.

I didn't know Wales and Scotland are nationalised.

"<span ="ILfuVd" lang="en"><span ="hgKElc">England and Wales became the only countries in the world to have a fully privatised
water and sewage disposal system. In Scotland and Northern Ireland, water and sewerage services remained in public ownership."</span></span>

I wasnt being geographic sarcastic about my last, I genuinely thought Wales and Scotland were both privatised. Imo its bollox as we dont get to choose the supplier , so it's a monopoly for them.northwest2022-12-11 20:48:14

 

[big10p]

I thought RM are on strike today and tomorrow (14th, 15th). I've just had post delivered. I'm confused.

 

[Chihiro]

@northwest no worries

Did anyone else get a load of xmas post today about 2 weeks late cards ect?

 

[_Matt_]

I thought RM are on strike today and tomorrow (14th, 15th). I've just had post delivered. I'm confused.

Our postie said that they did have people covering for them.

 

[northwest]

I thought RM are on strike today and tomorrow (14th, 15th). I've just had post delivered. I'm confused.

At home today and noticed a post man ( postal employee to be politically correct), he was in a van collecting . Maybe some are not if they not in the union?northwest2022-12-14 20:38:52

 

[big10p]

Yeah, I guess it must be a union thing.

 

[wetwants]

I’ve ordered a few bits off some major websites, and they’ve shipped via alternate couriers wheee they used to ship by Royal Mail.

I feel some staff might not make it out of this, when profits tank and the inevitable redundancies.

 

[Chihiro]

I used to work with someone who paid into a union his whole working life about £30 a month & never used their services

 

[Vorbis]

Anyone remember all the shipbuilders, dockers and miners we used to have..... Not sure striking did them much good.

Not quite a parallel but the post office can't make money delivering letters and there's a lot of competition in the courier market. People who otherwise wouldn't have used others will now try them and maybe find they're a better bet and better priced than the post office. Some of the business lost will be permanent.

 

[councilface]

Oh no my joystick is 2 weeks late. Why won't postman pat suck up another real terms pay cut? I can't play donkey Kong with an 8 way anymore ffs!

 

[thegreathopper]

I think Jonathan Pie has it right, http://youtu.be/Gljtvwhcdhc

 

[Vorbis]

Oh no my joystick is 2 weeks late. Why won't postman pat suck up another real terms pay cut? I can't play donkey Kong with an 8 way anymore ffs!

Isn't everyone experiencing real terms pay cuts at the moment? Just saying people and companies will go elsewhere for reliable delivery and may well not come back. That will lead at the very least to more job cuts which is a really big real terms pay cut if you're on the receiving end of a p45

Vorbis2022-12-14 22:24:30