Problem Toei Chassis/Tube Swap

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thats the heater resistor, that will affect overall brightness - once you find a good match you should check the heater voltage is 6.3 or slightly below

does your h.s lim pot actually work?
 

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I don’t think that affects the width is more to do with the contrast.

Check this thread, I swapped the 3.3 for a 1.5 ohm resistor.

Cool, thanks for that. I'll keep investigating!
 

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next step if h.s lim does not help is to check the b+ is 75v if its running at 15khz
B+ was slightly low. About 72-73v. When I moved it up to the recommended 76v it helped a little but only by driving up to 83-84v made it fill the screen horizontally. I did this only for a few seconds as I was concerned this could be bad for the flyback/caps.

Is a 7-8v (9-10%) increase in voltage unacceptable you think?

Is it enough to fry the caps/flyback etc or would it only really pop a fuse?
 
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you do not want to be running the b+ above 76v
the next step is replace the value of the cap that controls the width, i think its c531 - what value is in there now
Feared as much. It looked so good too!!!!

I'll check that cap today mate. Is it the super cap that engages with the wide jumper?

Even if I pushed it to about 80v it'd get me so close as to be happy with it tbh but best to be safe.
 
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super cap?
its going to be a metalized polypropylene cap - it will have a code on it like 331
S cap maybe its called? Assumed it meant 'Super' :)
Its the two big green 'pillow shaped' ones next to the Narrow/Wide jumper. The Wide jumper engages one of them I read. Just thought it might be one of them.

I'll have a proper look after work though thanks mate.
 

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Pardon the interjection 😁
I would like to try the heater resistor swap on my ms9 to
Hitatchi 25” ( normally paired with toei ). Bad contrast / dim picture ,
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Is it this large resister
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Behind the pillow cap ?
Gold, gold , purple , white , gold
( I’m reading them bands In revers and first to bands no visable in pic )
 

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Is yours definitely MS9 because we're using the same Hitachi tube so its strange that it's not doing the same as mine (nice picture but too narrow)?

Yours is actually doing what my MS8-29 chassis did on the Hitachi tube so maybe your chassis is MS8?

You got a pic of the yoke header pin sockets on the Chassis? I believe the MS9 has them split into two seperate plugs whereas the MS8 has them all together on a 4 pin plug (I think!)
 

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Is yours definitely MS9 because we're using the same Hitachi tube so its strange that it's not doing the same as mine (nice picture but too narrow)?

Yours is actually doing what my MS8-29 chassis did on the Hitachi tube so maybe your chassis is MS8?

You got a pic of the yoke header pin sockets on the Chassis? I believe the MS9 has them split into two seperate plugs whereas the MS8 has them all together on a 4 pin plug (I think!)
yeh this ms8
 
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